That's Torsten Passie, a professor of psychiatry and psychotherapy at Hannover Medical School in Germany.

努维尔：这是托斯顿·帕西（Torsten Passie），德汉诺威医学院精神病学和心理治疗学教授。

Jobs's dietary habits became even more obsessive when he read Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret, an early twentieth-century German-born nutrition fanatic.

乔布斯读过20世德的营养学狂热者阿诺德·埃雷特(Arnold Ehret)所著的《非黏液饮食治疗学》一书后，饮食习惯变得更加怪异。

And for that reason, I have really great marketing people who know nothing about therapeutics, and therapeutics people who know nothing about CAC to LTV like that, it's so interesting to learn and so I always tell people like join 23andMe.

于这个原因， 我有非常优秀的营销人员， 他们对治疗学一无所知，而治疗学人员对 CAC 到 LTV 一无所知，学习起来很有趣， 所以我总是告诉人们加入 23andMe。